Hey Infinite Beings!
Welcome to episode 4! We're thrilled you're here.
In this episode we share 1) what holism means to us, 2) our human tendency towards "comparisonitis," 3) our process of embracing the "woo woo" and letting go of self-judgment, and 4) experiences around being authentic verses trying to fit in.
Here’s the breakdown:
2:31 Natalie defines holistic: “Having a lens, in the work that I do, that looks at the whole person. So, instead of just seeing someone’s mental illness or their diagnosis or their constellation of symptoms, it’s looking at the whole picture of what is this person’s mental health, physical health, spiritual health, sexual health, financial health, all of theses different things, how do all of those pieces come together or not come together, and how can I help support this person in a holistic way that honors and integrates all of the different parts of themselves.”
3:49 Kate defines holistic: “There’s no separation between mind, body and spirit. So, your whole self is all of those things and healing needs to take place at all of those levels.”
4:56 Natalie wonders if there is another language that uses a word for the “body-mind”? The answer is yes! In Japanese, “Kokoro” is a word that describes mind/body/spirit. This word connotes that there is no separation. Cool!
5:21 Kate starts taking about how “the body is basically a meat suit that we’re flying around this world in.” Meanwhile images of Lady Gaga’s meat dress start dancing in our minds and we wonder “where is Kate going with this?”
6:16 Kate shares that she was afraid Natalie wasn’t going to think she was “holistic enough.”
7:14 Natalie shares that she also struggled with “comparisonitis.”
8:40 Natalie speaks to a human tendency to ask “am I ________ enough?”
9:04 Kate mentions a funny article about “How to be a SIlverlake Shaman.”
10:38 Kate speaks about inspiring author Lisa Lister and not being under obligation to address any particular issue on the podcast or social feeds.
11:43 Natalie says “[Podcasting is] an opportunity for us to speak our truth and to become more intimately connected to what our truth is and to share that in a way that feels safe […] coming to a better understanding of what we believe by speaking it and there’s power and […] authenticity in that and there’s an ability and a freedom for us to choose what we want to say and how we want to say it.”
13:37 Kate talks about “woo-woo warnings” and apologizing for our spirituality because it’s not mainstream. We both get into the short-comings of science.
16:40 Natalie shares her negative experiences with “fauxlistic” professionals who use that word in their marketing because the concept is currently en vogue, creating a “watering-down” of the healing field.
19:19 Natalie says “there is harm in misrepresenting yourself because it creates more confusion for the public.”
20:42 Kate says that if you market authentically, “the right people will find you, if you’re leading with your truth and who you are.”
22:30 Natalie shares her experience in an interview at a clinic that wasn’t the right fit, where she tried to push a square peg into a round hole.
26:13 Natalie says she’s created a “woo-woo” barometer for how “woo-woo” she feels she can be with a particular person. But moving towards breaking that habit.
27:30 Just because my option falls out of mainstream doesn’t make it less valid, and if I can stand in my truth and present what I believe to be true in a way that I’m confident in the other person actually might be way more receptive to it than I think […] the more I come out and share my beliefs […] people are actually meeting me where I’m at.
29:13 Kate wraps up with a “Note from the Universe.”
Without further ado, here is episode 4 of the Infinite Well podcast! Enjoy.
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